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So we're starting a new Museslash community on Dreamwidth and I created an account there as well: you can friend me at nuraicha.dreamwidth.org. As said on my previous post, I am not planning to move because I don't really blog much anymore? I'll export there (if I find out how) my entries for backup and if I end up blogging, I'll be crossposting. Fics will be either posted exclusively on AO3 or also on DW, and announced on both MS communities.

I didn't want to do this but... Yes, it has happened.

PS: I suck at replying stuff I know, sorry. I will try my best to reply to the shitload of comments ASAP, but I have a job now and lots of stress to handle and... well, who am I kidding? I have never been good at keeping on touch here :(

PS2: Fic might be coming soon...
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Date: 2017-04-10 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherrylng.livejournal.com
I'm quite concerned about what would happen to the fics of the following:

-Those that are linked to accounts that are directly to a writer's personal LJ/comm.
-Those that are within MS but the author has long since terminated their account.

These ones are the ones that concern me in whether or not they'll come through with the move. Cleaning up the ones that are now nonexistent is doable, if a hell of a task to go through, but it's the ones that are still around that leave me concerned.

I don't know if those people would still care about their works or not, but moving to DW would mean that we need a manual method of 'moving' their stories across to DW as well. Should there be a limit in that if an LJ user is not active in LJ for a number of years, that we just take over and move their stuff through as well?

Date: 2017-04-10 09:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mcsparklez
As far as I understood it doesn't matter if the account is terminated or not. DW basically just copies the content that is already there. So links are taken as they are (meaning in the case you mentioned, they would link directly to the LJ account of that person).

Of course, entries that link to a user's journal that's been purged wouldn't work, but that's the same on LJ.

I guess the easiest would be to just try and see what works and what doesn't. In case that fics cannot be transferred, I was already wondering if it were possible to start an archive kind of thing like we used to have yeaaaaaaaars ago (I think the other Stef maintained it back then). It's long deleted, so it would be a lot of work to then go all the way back, but sure as hell worth it.

Date: 2017-04-10 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stefanyeah.livejournal.com
I was a co-mod back then, yeah.

Starting an archive without contacting each and every writer will backfire heavily sooner or later. Trust me on that. We had a shitstorm directed at us about just going ahead and archiving things without permission granted, which was when things became WORK and what basically killed the archive in the end.

Some of the ones not posting anymore don't want to ever be connected to MS again, some don't just want their work taken by others and posted to other sides, lots of other reasons why people won't appreciate your effort.

I personally advise against an archive, even if I loved having one.

Date: 2017-04-10 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherrylng.livejournal.com
It would work, just a lot more work than usual. If it means being able to preserve fics that we know and loved or those that have been there for years, it's far better than to lose them or see them terminated and gone.

I still remember with sadness of what happened to the ones that the authors chose to actively delete it. It's sort of understandable, even though the loss of it is a devastating blow to the rest of us, and fics that we talked about seem more like something from a bygone era that others have missed out on.

That's why I love AO3's orphan_accounts, as even if an author deactivates their account, their stories are preserved and still readable, and all is not lost.

EDIT: Read the other Stef's comment and... yeah, that sounds like a PR nightmare in itself. But... I'm looking at AO3's orphan_account thingy and wondering maybe, if just maybe, there's a way around it? We can still store the fics in our hard drives as an extreme precaution (we won't post them elsewhere to uphold never to plagiarize and to ensure an author's privacy and to at least, get our fixes) to make sure that things are still preserved rather than erased.

If not, the next best thing to hope for, is that LJ won't erase those stories. This is starting to sound like us being librarians trying to save the contents of a library from raiders that we know are coming towards us. Only the books that we're trying to save is not as easy as taking said books to carry out of the library as the authors are still alive to a certain degree, or that some don't want to end up in the relocated library.
Edited Date: 2017-04-10 09:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-04-11 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamarelmensdorp.livejournal.com
I like your 2nd ps. Please write.

Those other comments make me so sad. I don't want to think about losing some great fics by writers that don't write anymore.

Date: 2017-04-12 09:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oh-cathy.livejournal.com
This is bloody ridiculous (LJ, not the move, the move is... a great move).

I'll be making my own account over there as well, maybe export some of my posts - although there's not much on my journal apart from a couple of doodles and icons - and hell yeah, if you need any help with the MS comm (graphics and such) feel free to contact me, I'm more than willing to help in any way I can.

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